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Old 08-10-2010, 09:48 PM   #1
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Has any one tried a 6sp manual swap into one of the auto trucks? probably expensive to piece it all together? any build threads?
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it's the same as doing one in a car. Find a wreck and you have it all. The ECM needs to be changed though. . . Probably cheaper to buy a dufferent truck.
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i figured, oh well, how is that H&S tuner for the tranny doing so far
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tranny kit g56 is gunna run around 2500 there are a few out there for 1500 we are doing one in a 2007 5.9l soon ,but as said you are going to need a ecm, clutch, shifter, hdros pedals and a bunch of other stuff out of a manual truck itd be easiest to find a manual truck just like yours and do a side by side swap to bad your up north otherwise I might be interested in swapping with you I've broke enough g56s I figure I might give the 68 a try and see how many of those I can break lol. plus suncoast isnt to far from where I live.
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Just slap a 48 in there!
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I'm wanting too can't make my mind up between it and mikes gorilla 56
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I'm sure he does great work, but no matter how strong it is.....you would never catch a 48 truck, with the same mods. For what it's worth
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I know no manny tranny is going to do that ,but I still like rowin gears it a habit lmfao
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I hear that! I pulled a G56, before I went this route. I can still tell it when and where I want it to shift......at least
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Dang it your makin me want to spen another 10g on my truck. I bet it 10000 well spent though
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It can be done for less than 10k! I got a price from suncoast as well, but I have goerend stickers on my truck for good reason. I have hung out with those guys, and I get along great with them, but Dave's service and warranty is second to none. The only edge they have on him is the VB........for now
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Give the 68 90 days. It may surprise you what it can hold if H&S pulls off the trick they are working on.
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Give the 68 90 days. It may surprise you what it can hold if H&S pulls off the trick they are working on.
What are they doing to the 68?
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giving the user control of the shift points and so on. Hopefully will be able to set the kickdown of the lockup allot sooner. Also turning off the relearning processes
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Turning off the adaptive learning is the big one it allows them to set pressures. With the adaptive learning the pressure will immediately start to drop when you drive nice and it takes about 50 shifts driving like a madman to get it to start going up again. On a 6 speed since there is no room for extra clutches pressure is the only way to hold power. Thats the issue the builders have been fighting more than anything else. They make it hold on a dyno running it like crazy but once it gets put on a daily driver it won't hold after a couple of weeks all because the computer is so smart it turns down the pressure to increase the life of the transmission.

On the Allison most of the programmers have a button to push that resets the adaptive learning process. This gets the pressure back up to the level it was set at in the program immediatly. So you don't cook 5th and 6th when you hook it on a trailer. If H&S can't shut it off hopefully they can offer that feature. At least with the H&S you can reload the program and reset it now. But that is a pain.
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What will happen if we put that cheap electrical pressure cheater in there with the H & S trans tune? I wonder
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What will happen if we put that cheap electrical pressure cheater in there with the H & S trans tune? I wonder
I wonder that myself. If they have managed to disable limp mode on the trans that would be a good work around. There are two of those foolers available one is for the 45 and 545 it gives around a 20% pressure increase and will fit the 68 but the 68 TCM is more sensitive and it will go into limp mode.

The other one that works on the 68 gives about a 10% pressure increase. And won't throw it in limp mode. I would call H&S and ask about it. If they have disabled the trans limp mode I will probably put the one for the 45 or 545 on mine. It should allow you to drive nice and not loose pressure to the point it starts slipping.

Its just an inline resistor that cost about 10 cents. The transgo 45/545 reprogramming kit instructions that can be found online tell you which wire to cut and what resistor to solder to it for the 45/545. I did mention this could throw your trans into limp mode right.

Steve its your turn to call H&S I called em yesterday.

If you call them post something I would be very interested to hear what you find out. Ask them about both varieties.
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I'm going to do better than that. I got the 10% one. All I have to do is put on my wet suit and plug it in. Then it's a matter of being able to get out and drive it fast enough on Rt 80. Hell I put in 16 Hours a day
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Turning off the adaptive learning is the big one it allows them to set pressures. With the adaptive learning the pressure will immediately start to drop when you drive nice and it takes about 50 shifts driving like a madman to get it to start going up again. On a 6 speed since there is no room for extra clutches pressure is the only way to hold power. Thats the issue the builders have been fighting more than anything else. They make it hold on a dyno running it like crazy but once it gets put on a daily driver it won't hold after a couple of weeks all because the computer is so smart it turns down the pressure to increase the life of the transmission.

On the Allison most of the programmers have a button to push that resets the adaptive learning process. This gets the pressure back up to the level it was set at in the program immediatly. So you don't cook 5th and 6th when you hook it on a trailer. If H&S can't shut it off hopefully they can offer that feature. At least with the H&S you can reload the program and reset it now. But that is a pain.
I have thought of this often...especially when towing. I don't bag my truck through the gears so I always wonder if it may not shift as firm as it should when I hit a hill while towing.

One of my mods did change the way it shifts. When I added the boost fooler the truck will stay in a higher gear and not downshift on hills as early. If I am careful I can back out of the throttle to keep the boost under the point where it downshifts while at the same time not loosing very much speed...depending on the steepness or how long the hill is of course.

On many hills I downshift to 5th right at the bottom to avoid a full throttle downshift. If it was a 6 speed manual with the same final gear ratio I am certain I could leave my truck in top gear and still maintain highway speeds just about everywhere I have been with my truck and trailer so far.

These 6.7s are torque monsters stock and even better with basic bolt on mods. I would love to be able to make my truck stay in top gear under higher boost situatioins...this is why the inline 6 engines shine so well...mega torque at low rpms...also staying in top gear more will yield better fuel economy. Less shifting will help the transmission to last longer also.

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I wonder that myself. If they have managed to disable limp mode on the trans that would be a good work around. There are two of those foolers available one is for the 45 and 545 it gives around a 20% pressure increase and will fit the 68 but the 68 TCM is more sensitive and it will go into limp mode.

The other one that works on the 68 gives about a 10% pressure increase. And won't throw it in limp mode. I would call H&S and ask about it. If they have disabled the trans limp mode I will probably put the one for the 45 or 545 on mine. It should allow you to drive nice and not loose pressure to the point it starts slipping.

Its just an inline resistor that cost about 10 cents. The transgo 45/545 reprogramming kit instructions that can be found online tell you which wire to cut and what resistor to solder to it for the 45/545. I did mention this could throw your trans into limp mode right.

Steve its your turn to call H&S I called em yesterday.

If you call them post something I would be very interested to hear what you find out. Ask them about both varieties.
I have been waiting patiently for a few years for the aftermarket part suppliers to engineer bullet proof parts for my truck. Hopefully by the time I finish paying for it I can start to modify it the way I want and only have to do things once! In the mean time there are many cool new things being tested and developed so the choices are getting better and better all of the time!

H&S has proved to be dedicated in helping many of us achieve our goals and dreams for our 6.7 trucks. When the time comes for my big mods I am sure that they will be able to help me bring it all together!

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Have you tried the H & S Trans tune yet?
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